Monday, March 16, 2009

Heff and empire-building (updated)

Top Cat points to an interesting interview with "Heff" (you know, the guy with the bunnies).

It seems to me that Heff is, even at 82, basically a very immature person.

But that's not as much of a dis of him personally as it sounds. I am gradually growing into the feeling that "empire-building" is basically an immature and silly activity. At least the parts of it which include lots of publicity, a big mansion to impress visitors, trophy wives/girlfriends, many luxury cars which you don't have time to enjoy, etcetera.

It wasn't so damn long ago that I was sort of into it myself. I wanted to be the greatest artist on Earth, and I just thought that fortune and fame and a huge house came with the territory.
But now I don't see it. What the heck good does it do? It seems to me it must be a very weak ego which needs support by big artificial structures like that. Not a healthy ego, a weak one.

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Update: I once read an article about Heff where the writer said that he did not imagine anybody would want to live like him: in a mansion, in a robe, in co-eds. That seems to be a weird statement, what man does not dream of a life with no dress code, no money problems, and pretty girls galore?
I think his statement was more one of not liking Heff, and for that I don't blame him. His ideals are as much loose sex as possible, as many possessions as possible, and no accountability. He is also and has always been blatantly unfaithful and promiscuous while at the same time being totally devastated by his first wife being unfaithful to him before they married.

Just the fact that at 82 he is still playing the big JamesBond-DonJuan-super-womanizer... I mean, jeeeez. Even if we were to imagine that he can still sexually satisfy three 22-year-olds (which seems to be what we are expected to believe), it's just silly, tasteless, and pointless.

Update: Bron points to this about Playboy.
... Which leads to this.
The most interesting parts of the book involve Hefner's childhood. As a kid consumed by pop culture, he doodled and daydreamed his way through class. When a girl rejected him in high school, the young Hefner gave himself a montage-worthy makeover: buying new duds, improving his dance skills, learning hip expressions, and adopting a "suave manner." Many people revise their image in high school, but Hefner was eerily thorough, producing an entire comic series about his new self. He described the character in writing as "a very original fellow" who "calls everyone 'Slug' or 'Fiend' and his pet expression is 'Jeeps Creeps.'

I'm gonna be sick. Heffner probably considers himself a king, but he is the ultimate slave. He will do anything to get girls to like him, and he will do anything to get the public to admire him. He has no pride whatsoever. He completely eradicated himself and replaced it with the fantasy of what he thought he was supposed to want.

23 comments:

Pascal [P-04referent] said...

According to architectural rules of construction, the bigger the supports, the stronger the structure.

Of course, the weaker the material, the bigger supports you'll need. A good material, properly built, can support itself.
For instance, the front porch of my house...
Symbol intended.

Anonymous said...

Im not convinced, Heff hardly gets a word in, the rest is the interviewers judgements based on what he has heard and read it seems, seems like the interviewer is trying to get his little day in the sun by belittling a public figure that has probably done far more then he will probably ever do

Anonymous said...

just checked an its a she not he

Anonymous said...

Well...I found this, from 3 years back, which...for those of us who haven't seen their show, gives a birdseye view of their life. And...one of Hef talking about Holly ("...who we represent" lol!) being accepted to be part of *Dancing w/the Stars*: here.

His comment on women coming after him: "Never more than now. I think it's the TV show [ The Girls Next Door on E!]. … Usually they're not ones I would be interested in." makes me laugh: uh...yeah...who wouldn't want to be pampered day and night! But...these girls must be pretty desperate; and...seemingly sounds like he's down to *slim pickin's* @ his age, too! lol!

And..."The more interesting question for me is what would my life had been like if she had not been unfaithful to me."

Oh, yeah...I'm sure that she is exactly the reason that he became the dude he is, now! In the above piece, he *blames* it on his up-bringing; in the article, it's the ex-wife! lol!

I'd watch your back (ooh, your front, too!) w/the Aggravated Assult-charged young *ladies* as you're gettin' older, there, Heffie! lol!

And...his comment: "Quite frankly, I'm one of the best boyfriends they are likely to run into," he maintains. Uh...yeah...I guess most girlfriend/boyfriend set-ups don't come w/plastic surgery coverage, etc.! That outta keep 'em comin'!! lmao! PROOF: the *benies* didn't seem to keep the *love of his life* Holly there! SAD he doesn't just grow up and find someone his own age to *wind down* with!

Eolake Stobblehouse said...

He looks good for his age though.

Anonymous said...

"SAD he doesn't just grow up and find someone his own age to *wind down* with!"

I sure dont plan to do that, not that Im against the idea in theory

Anonymous said...

He looks good for his age though.

Do you really think so? I saw him on an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm and he looked like what he is - a guy in his 80s. If he's banging those "girlfriends" of his, he's got to have a Viagra drip.

I have to say, about his magazine: If he got away from the airbrushing and went more for a Domai look, things might pick up. Playboy was once the only one of its kind, but now there tons of copycats and some like Maxim sell a lot better.

Eolake Stobblehouse said...

Well, I based it on just one picture.

Are you sure Maxim is bigger. Three million copies of Playboy sounds big to me.

Pascal [P-04referent] said...

"If he got away from the airbrushing and went more for a Domai look, things might pick up."
Damn right. Even the specials with videogame babes today disappoint me.
And it's really saying something, that in Playboy I find the virtual babes cuter and less plasticky than the "allegedly real" photoshopped ones.
:-P

Ray said...

Right from that very first issue with Marilyn Monroe lying nude on her side on a red backdrop, it's all been about fantasy. Hef hired the best photographers he could find, and they spared no expense to remove not just the model's clothing, but also her pimples, warts, blemishes and eventually pubic hair traces, so that the result is pure fantasy. Nobody looks like those girls - not even those girls themselves. Hef has
somehow managed never to 'grow up', and he's still fighting it, and looking totally ridiculous.
And he doesn't give a damn what we think, obviously.

Eolake Stobblehouse said...

I once collected most of the playmates online, and up til about 1970, I really liked many of them.
They actually fell under my "simple nudes" ideal for Domai:
http://tr.im/huDm

...But it's possibly because until then porn was outlawed, and retouching had not come very far, I dunno.

Anonymous said...

I think fashion changed in the 80s, I mean it always changes and ideal woman are part of it, but something happened at that stage and things got, to my eye, very bland and repetitive and sterile and I dont think playboy got out of that 80s look, I think the same thing is happening now a bit, theres so much porn out there and most can be got free, with the economic downturn it will be interesting to see what happens

Anonymous said...

"so that the result is pure fantasy. Nobody looks like those girls - not even those girls themselves."

thats the idea tho, nobody wants to buy a magazine to see reality, they dont have too because they already have that, its just that maybe Hefs fantasy went astray from the general masses, but thats to be expected because everyone has their own

Anonymous said...

Are you sure Maxim is bigger.

Not sure, no. I'll have to see if I can find something about that. It was a few years ago when I heard that Playboy was making some minor changes to be more Maxim-like.

Anonymous said...

"He will do anything to get girls to like him, and he will do anything to get the public to admire him. He has no pride whatsoever. He completely eradicated himself and replaced it with the fantasy of what he thought he was supposed to want."

Firstly you're as bad because you just assume your opinion is right, his wrong. You're an airhead who can't back up opinion.

Were you ever normal? Normal isn't always bad. In high school a guy will do whatever it takes to getpussy. You're a fag so you probably wouldn't understand.

Eolake Stobblehouse said...

It's scary how well you know me.

Pascal [P-04referent] said...

Yeah. Everybody knows that those weird and ugly women on Domai are actually all men. It's SO obvious!

But I guess there are clients out there for that sort of weird twisted fetish. Not everybody is discerning enough to opt for Playboy instead. Go figure...

Anonymous said...

There is some truth to it. I mean Eolake is not exactly known for considering even for a second anyone else's opinion, even a god like you, Pascal.

And a fag could easily put up a nudie site featuring hot chicks...after all, they're supposed to have great taste, right? It comes with being a fag. Okay, so right there we Eolake's no fag. He came in second to Zaphod in the "Worst Dressed Sentient Being" contest.

Eolake Stobblehouse said...

I used to consider other people's opinions, but then I was told I should not do that.

I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body (and not even a good one).

Zaphod only won because he buggered the judge.

Anonymous said...

I hope you know I was joking there, Big E. Although you did say as much yourself not too long ago. Not that I'm any different. Like you I do not usually state an opinion that hasn't been carefully considered already.

I guess I should know better 'round these parts to ever agree even partially with a small fragment of an Anonymous post.

I'm not Josie! I can only dream of possessing such a vast intellect and razor-sharp wit. ;-)

Eolake Stobblehouse said...

Well, that one is not a funny joke, dude, it's just mean.

I wrote and then deleted this:

It's been claimed that I "don't consider the opinions of others". I've thought about it and come to the conclusion that this is a brilliant technique if one considers discussion a form of contest to be won, and not a form of communication.

What it does is that it immediately introverts the recipient. He is now looking at himself and not the ideas being discussed. Because of this he forgets that he does not have to agree with the premise (which is that there is an absolute truth and that the other person has it). So now that he has agreed with this, unwittingly, he only has two choices, and they both make him wrong: he can agree that he is close-minded for not changing his opinion, or he can agree that he had the wrong opinion. A beautiful lose/lose situation, and he can't see that clearly because of the introversion and the anger caused by the accusation. He forgets the third option: "I considered your opinion, and decided to stick with my own opinion, based on my viewpoint and the data I have. I could be wrong, but heck, we're all still learning".

Anonymous said...

eolake said...
"Well, that one is not a funny joke, dude, it's just mean."

I agree. I thought it was pretty tasteless and cruel!

Imagine having to *take that*...from someone who regularly comes to your sight and is given the forum to be allowed to say whatever they want and then vomits *that* on you?! Not nice at all, JD!

It would be really nice if people could be just a little more civil than the likes of the occasional *childish outburst of rudeness* from someone like an *Anon*. I think apologies go a long way in re-establishing communications and Eo considering your opinions...whenever he likes, JD. If people don't consider your opinion, perhaps there is something to be learned in that... Just a thought.

Anonymous said...

tc, you're douche. And Eolake, thanks for posting that. It reminds me that you and reason have barely a nodding acquaintance.